Please advise. Then the email request gets ignored by everyone thinking someone else will do it until the LW actually points a finger and say, that means YOU, Wakeen. Or at least there have been, everywhere Ive worked. Not only does it annoy me because the person could have just called me, but I also now have a pit in my stomach, dreading whatever situation it is that requires a phone call without any written discussion. ;)", So good. Check availability now! (2) I dont know what to do and Im making it your problem. Want to improve your English business writing? Also, Im hungry and mostly thinking about lunch. Find your new home at 1764 W Lindner Ave located at 1764 W Lindner Ave unit 3, Mesa, AZ 85202. HOW many for the sales summit in new YORK EllieH Me too. OP, yes, you are definitely interpreting it differently than it is intended. ", a real person to guide me, instead of some AI :)", The best feature of this service is that the text is edited by a human. That makes sense to me. *taps foot*. Also updated EXPENSE sheet you are reacting to i require when its being used as i need. I read it as deferential. Just a reminder that I needed X when you get a chance. It was impossible not to notice. People can be so different! When I have a good relationship with someone and see please advise, I think nothing of it. Is it possible theyre meaning Do you have time for a question? People around here use Can I ask you a question? all the time, and Im perfectly happy to say Nows not a good timecatch me when I break for lunch.. This is what I generally do. Sort it! The original model was created digitally in Nomad Sculpt . If I am seeking a favor, I write, I would appreciate any advice you can offer on this issue. If I am writing informally to team members, I will use Please advise. And, since it apparently means please do what it takes to fulfill my request, I have a feeling that, even if it translated well into English, itd still drive people up the wall. Can you please answer one of the 4 emails or 2 voicemails on this topic? 17 Oct 2017. Input your text below. And with current technology, this is pretty easy to do. persons IM: Can you talk? I hope not many people feel like the OP about it! I use something similar. 0. With no punctuation. I agree tbh. if you will. }; Yes, but plenty of people use it earnestly: as in, hmm, havent heard back hope they didnt forget but dont want to be a nag. Its not the check-in; thats polite enough. And if more emphasis is needed, you could throw in a Please at the beginning. Another is when I get an email that contains only call me. It's the best online service that I have ever used! But that whole make sense? stuff irked me. Let me introduce myself. Can you please clarify? It is now on your side of the line. So now it causes a twitch when others use it, but I know its all on me. Nor could she understand why having a staff member walk 500m in the dark would be a problem. = Sentence Notice that I switched the Verb and the Subject in the original question. I dont mind like Please advise when Boss is available, etc. I would definitely let this one go.. Please advise rubs me the wrong way, too. To me the gentle reminder reads as Pease dont be mad at me, but I need to remind you of [xyz]., How about friendly reminder? I figure my bolding in emails annoys some people, but I do it because those people typically dont read the important parts and never respond. I think Ive probably written Thanks so much in advance too but more when its part of a longer exchange where the other person has already suggested the thing Im now saying Yes, please do that to, not just cold. I made sure I never ever used it in my own emails. I find this thread fascinating. Example: Just checking in to see if theres anything else you need from me so you can complete the [thing you havent sent back to me].. Im saying heres the situation, tell me what to do.. All Rights Reserved. I dont mind it. All I can do it explain what the issue is and what our end need is, and ask them what our possible options are. By putting the focus on yourself, you're not putting pressure on the relationship or him to be a certain way or validate you in a certain way. For awhile, I used Ten-four! with another manager as kind of a joke to let her know I got a message, but it doesnt really work with everyone. Shes lovely, but I dont like the phrase. That one really irritates me too. It drives me batty. Ask what you mean to ask. I totally agree with two recent posters (Scott and PC), as well as many, many others prior to them. The editors' comments are helpful and the customer service is amazing. Im pretty sure all 200,000 plus employees at my company use it regularly! Because it's a special occasions. Heres the cluster fudge thats happening. Its when they say call me, especially from someone senior. Labyrinthine One of my coworkers uses VR. I sign my emails with Regards all the time. And kind of hilarious. I feel like I am being summoned. I can definitely think of specific people who only use please advise in the negative context. Battle #1: people who reply all to large groups with Please remove me from this email list I use Please Advise constantly when I have no idea what the actual question would normally be. For example, Ill try to call one of my peers. We use the yellow highlighter feature around here for emphasis, and it works very well. Consider following us @archetype_origins on Instagram for more content, we post on a regular basis. I just had this situation the other day someone asked me to change something that I posted in our system. Make sense? Doesnt bother me much after that. I just say, Hi can you tell me if blahblahblah? and just wait their response (if Im IM-ing them its not that urgent). We wouldnt say Please advise out loud, because we know how it sounds. Sometimes on emails its unclear whether its just an FYI or something I need a response on. I love this, and will forever now think of it this way every time I type it. Although I would agree that there are worse email offenses. Tuesday, 1/25: 2pm - 4pm EST. I just love this). Hello, Dahling!, People in Namibia do that too, although typically only with others they know. It is Something That Is Not Done in our culture (which tends to be very email/IM-focused). estimated time: 30 minutes,directly in your inbox. And I definitely wouldnt instruct others not to do it, since its really just a personal preference on your part, not a rule thatthey should be following in general. The only person Ive known to use this constantly is one of my least favorite people. TIA! which was infuriating. The second option sounds like the sender is fed up. Aaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh! This person I know says it all the time (All. (they also talk about how many sleeps it will be until they do this or that which to me is cloying baby talk but then so is brekky, prezzie and many other phrases the British are fond of. Maybe its worse, but I use This is a reminder that and then This is your 2nd reminder notice that and finally This is your 3rd reminder that.. (Probably including every time Ive written in.). If I put FYI instead, they know they dont need to reply to me. Please let me know which option you prefer 6,500 results on the web Some examples from the web: So will you please let me know . When you ask the question, it gives people a chance to decide if they want to know more, or not. This is surprising to me that people are offended by please advise. I see it as completely neutral. Also, just the sheer volume of email I got made it necessary to adopt some kind of triage system, and people who plainly asked for what they wanted from me always got priority. In American English, "prefer" is a little more formal but still common enough to use in everyday speech. Please advise doesnt annoy me and I use it myself much the same as Katie The Fed explained in her comment. Please Advise.. Answer (1 of 20): "Let me know where you're at" "Keep me apprised" "Keep me in the loop" "Keep me informed" "Keep me updated" "Advise me when" "Tell me when something changes" To name a few please advise to me is still quite demanding and says. Thanks, Persephone! Given the general horrid state of business email etiquette in general, I find it difficult to complain about any word usage that begins with please. It loses the effect and can be irritating/condescending when you use it too often. ?I suppose please advise is better than that or whatever expletives I might be thinking. Please let us know your preferences is the most popular phrase on the web. Just adding a when you get a chance, thanks takes two seconds and is much more polite. :). Yep. I always take the time to phrase my response as, I advise you to Actually, if any of my direct reports use it, I ask what they mean by it. Ill confess to using please advise in place of certain expletives. I had a calculus teacher who said a combination of the words so um ok yeah every few sentences. Also, I dont mind it at all if people skip leaving me voicemail and instead email or IM with a request for me to call them back. Thanks! Thats exactly how it strikes me. Me, too. Ive noticed that yeah, we dont say Sincerely anymore, but I feel really strange just writing my name at the bottom of a reply (and yes we have those auto signatures, but everything gets shoved down to the bottom of the chain, so you only see them properly the first time). Regarding battles 1&2. The phrase that I always hated was make sense? at the end of an email from a former Director. So efficient. Early in my job I would give people way, WAY more information than necessary in emails before I realized that this can be offensive and its almost always better to use the minimum information necessary for clarity (not that that is necessarily easy to determine, but as a goal). } else { More than 150,000 people like you receive our weekly newsletter to master their English skills! I have had people say thanks for all you do, which is really nice once in a while. There was no history of bleeding; stool sample was negative for occult blood. Im still unconvinced that it is bad form. Free and automatic, this tool compares phrases. If you say -- How would you like to proceed -- then that is a question you should say -- How you would like to proceed. Qualified Editors Native English experts for UK or US English. Please let me know your preferred way of dealing with this. Of course, Id try to say it more diplomatically. Ok, this is hilarious, because I used to this way today! Please let us know if gets his speech back. Even more frequently, the recipient will forward an email up the chain, unbeknownst to the author. Thanks, + Read the full interview, I love TextRanch because of the reliable feedback. My HTML brain cells went out for a moment. Often times, I presented with a lot of data that I dont know what to do with it. Ill ask for advice, input, and/or guidance, but never with that hated two-word statement. I supervise a manager who falsified an employee write-up but I dont think she should be fired, getting out of shared intern housing, why are so many executives condescending, and more, interviewer fake-rejected me to see if I would fight for the job. Im having a problem with this and Im not sure what to ask for but this is what we need. Being English, I wish we would adopt wee because it is such a warm word. I will say that if I sign an email with please advise its really just my way of saying for the love of God answer my email! Is that better? It just hangs without a conclusion. I find it offensive and passive-aggressive. This answer is: Hide . Both are perfectly fine, use which ever you prefer! The recipient is dealing with a quality crisis related to last months collector teapot and all other work has been postponed until early next week. Sometimes Ive had people reply with Do I need to know more? or Is there more? and then we can have a conversation about that, rather than me give them a long monologue without checking in with them first to make sure they want to know more. Same as something like, what can we do about this? It can be a genuine question or it can be a thinly veiled way of saying I would like you to tell me how to help you not do something like this again.. (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. And Id hope that someone would cut me some slack should I unknowingly pick the wrong set of words. if you wish. If the question has been asked, I will answer it. When my employees come to me, I want them to come with solutions or ideas, not just problems. (Or would it? JMO of course. LOL I read it as some character from a Disney movie about to break into song. The How do I save a word file is not a literal question thats happened, but very close. ", Human who is reviewing my question not automated machine. I try to leave the actual question for the end of the paragraph. And from people who should have known better than to reply all! I never heard the how many sleeps thing back in the UK I heard it for the first time when I moved to Canada. On that note, I also hate Thanks in advance. so if I suddenly decide Im not doing this for you, will you be sending another email revoking that thanks, then? Sometimes we feel particularly cheeky and switch it up to kindly advise. Cant think of any examples right off the bat but it definitely doesnt fit for some emails! I hate please advise. Trite business-speak. I agree that benefit of the doubt is important when reading emails just because tone can be hard to convey correctly sometimes, but it seems like an oxymoron to say dont read into tone that isnt there when you have no way to know what the tone is supposed to be aside from what you can grasp by the words the sender used. This comes from past experiences where I had situation X and thought I had solutions A or B. In order to post your question we need your email to notify you when the response will be available. (I wont get into the aggravating colleague who copies the boss on EVERY (sorry for the shouty capitals) email exchange between us, which is another reason why my emails resemble business letters I look more professional than she. It only happens rarely, but every once in a while Im asked to email someone about something and I really have no idea what Im doing/what the end goal is, so I put please advise. i kind of agree with the letter writer. That is why I asked the OP if there were more issues at play in this office. I think this came up in the open thread recently too. I think its one of those boy who cried wolf situationsi.e., dont use the phrase unless you really, truly are looking for advice or a decision or a response of some sort. Get your English checked! It is like personal space. as an example, someone is speaking at an event, for which we dont pay for, but reimburse for. Ok, now that I think more about it, I dont usually just write, Please advise. I actually write Please advise on such and such or Please advise asap as my deadline is May 1. In the end, because she was unable to understand the issue I went to speak to the owner of the business, who immediately sent out an email clarifying the parking procedure. If I have to remind you more than once youre probably on my nerves more than I am on yours. should I tell the truth in my exit interview? I frequently use that phrase. You are incredibly annoying and childish. I think overall people have a hard time getting tone correct when reading emails. I guess Im being somewhat oversensitive because Ive had several employees in the past who drove me CRAZY with constantly dumping issues in my lap and never trying to bring solutions. About half my relatives are from the South, and Ive never heard any of them use this phrase in anything other than a sincere way. Not a fan. This means that you can drop the adverb "please" and simply use "let me know if you need any help" instead. They have bolded passages, underlined passages, bolded AND underlined passages, and lines in all caps. I close with Please advise, and cc the original parties in conflict so they can all see Im trying to get an answer from someone at a higher pay grade than me that needs to weigh in. It is almost always someone who is trying to disagree and doesnt want to explain how or why, someone who is trying to delay, or someone who doesnt want to make a decision (but not in a whats your advice? way, more in a I dont want to deal with this way). Just as Im used to people replying with something like Great, thanks! or Ok, no problem rather than acknowledged, Im used to people ending emails with what do you think? or is it ok if we do X? not please advise.. if you so wish. Just hope that boss doesnt respond with yes. And nothing else. I was just thinking about do the needful while reading this! single. Please advise.. The sender writes anyway and says I need to put in the order for either blue and green enamel for next months collector teapot and Jane told me she didnt know. I dont see it as passive aggressive at all. Now his bosses, they hated it. 4. I will have to watch these. But she would write EmilyG, there is no copier paper left, do you know where to order some? 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