[4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. Terrific reading. The main differences between Tullamore Dew vs Jameson are: Tullamore Dew is produced in different distilleries, whereas Jameson is produced in a single distillery. The full like of Bushmills (and a couple of other Irish whiskeys) will be available for sampling at Whiskies of the World on March 27th. And a true story: as a young Dublin barman I was confounded by a true-blue Dubliner who asked for a large Shirley Bassey. Irish for the whiskey So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? Believe in the Trinity of God. As a Scotsman living in Scotland, Id say I f youre worried about the religion of your whiskey then perhaps you shouldnt be drinking. Is Jameson, Bushmills Really Catholic Versus Protestant Whiskey? Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. Whiskey is Irish, whatever brand (or religion), followed by Americans (as in bourbon whiskey etc.). Whiskey, or "uisce beatha" in the Irish language, is an integral part of Ireland and Irish culture. In true Irish US tradition, my son is a cop and we will drink any Irish whiskey all of which are superior to Scotch. . From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . Whereas Bushmills is seen (by some) as British because it is located in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK)and there is a political bias against it from some quarters. The three also exchange used casks, when need be, if they have extra. Im married to a Protestant and my best friend and fellow whiskey hound is a also one. My South Side Irish Chicago Dad always told me that Jameson was the Catholic whisky and that Bushmills was the whiskey made by the damn Protestants. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. The 1608 license is not marketing shite, but did refer to the area of the town of Bushmills. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. As the Protestants had pretty much a stranglehold over all shipping in the country, they refused to ship Dew in favor of the Protestant-produced Jameson. The fun is is teasing those who do not know/care to understand. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. Turned out not to be such a controversy. The Plantation of Ulster is when the King of England gave lands away in Northern Ireland to the English that originally belonged to the Irish. Makes me want to get on a plane to Dublin immediately., Its like loving the smell of a sharpie or gasoline, in small way Kelsey Crenshaw. [3][1] The distillery, which had an output of about 6,000 gallons in its first year of operation,[4] initially traded as James Power and Son, but by 1822 had become John Power & Son,[1] and had moved to a new premises at John's Lane, a side street off Thomas Street. Believe in the Trinity of God. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! What a treat. Why even Arthur Guinness was a prod. When asked to identify "the term commonly used to refer to the historical period in which Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church," two-thirds of the general public (65%) correctly chose the Reformation. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. I even stayed in what was one of the hotbed cities during the troubles. Required fields are marked *. Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. Whiskey has no religion. Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. Im sure there were dodgy discriminatory practices based on race or religion in most big corporations in many countries in the past. I find Jameson to be a bit too sweet, I guess. These are the books and tools I use every single day to make drinks at home and behind the bar. Funny how these things work out, innit? Prom_STar 9 yr. ago I am definitively a black bush person but I was mentioning that while spending a lot of time in Ireland back in 1998, I saw, while visiting the Bushmills distillery, cartons of Jameson bottles on the bottling chain. I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even Being good to people is the very best thing you can do for yourself. So any Americans who believe this, should change to Murphys at once. [1] History [ edit] , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. It is calles an ORANGEMANhas nothing to do with Syracuse University. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! A fair amount of nonsense in some of these replies. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. Bushmills isnt produed deep in the heart of protestant country its produced on the north coast which is mixed catholic and protestant, sure the catholic stronghold Glens of Antrim are down the road. hint of linseed. I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. Right now Redbreast, Bushmills 10yr Single malt ( drinking neat as I type), Jameson and Michael Collins Blend. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . Never once was I presented with a this is the north, or this is Ireland like many seem to believe in the States. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. Robber jumps out of an alley, holds up a gun, and says, Are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Man says, Neither, Im a jew. Robber thinks for a moment, says, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?, are you a Protestant or a Catholic? This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. Get your facts right ! Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The waitress stared at me, and said in her thick brogue, This is an IRISH pub. I looked at her and said, okay, Ill have a Harp. Here in Montana, that conversation wouldnt have made any sense. Its an American argument that doesnt carry weight here, whiskey is whiskey. Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. If you guys can get your hands on Kilbeggan, it will not disappointI only recently discovered it and thought Id share. I drink it often . When it comes to what crosses my lips I guess I am an agnostic. No matter where it is produced. . Get over it and drink what you feel. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. But "this couldn't be any further from the truth," says McGarry. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. Support the old sod. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. Yep, he was referring to a certain product from Bushmills.. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. In all the pubs in NYC, no one seemed to really care that I noticed from either side of the bar. And good whiskey. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Next Post Xante Pear Liqueur (Not A Sex Toy). But NONE of this has anything to do with Whiskey brands and everything to do with prejudices. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. Your email address will not be published. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Potatoes for supper I was aware of the obvious problem with the claim that Bushmills is 'protestant whisky' but this gives a great insight. I think its alot worse than some backward hick town in yankeeville. Well Kentucky used to be part of the state of Virginia, but that doesnt mean you blame the whiskey for something that happened in that state. To inject religion into the discussion demeans the very simple fact that whiskey has no religion despite the understandable biases of the past. They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. Period. What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. There was an Irish-American lobby group headed by a politician that was running for mayor that started a whole anti-Bushmills campaign in San Francisco in the early 90s claiming that the company never hired Catholics, a convenient attract Irish-American votes. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. I am Northern Irish and really only see this being an Irish American issue. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. First published on March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM. 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